In conversation with Professor Jonathan Rix

Professor ‘Jonty’ Rix holds the chair of Participation and Learning Support at the Open University. Jonty's research interests include policies, practices and language that facilitates inclusion. His work explores diverse perspectives and models that promote thinking about the aim and fundamental purpose of education which is central to his philosophy …. ‘it’s not just about changing systems’ (Rix, 2016). I had the opportunity of spending a couple of very enjoyable hours ‘in conversation’ with Professor Rix. The aim was to discuss his latest book, ‘Must Inclusion be Special?’ but our discussion quickly moved into an interesting exploration of his realistic vision for educational change which I endeavour to capture here along with offering some insights into his book.